Reply to Are 50 million really missing??
Posted by ~Ray @ 2007-12-09 13:50:15
SaveIndianFamily : We are here to raise express against the female infanticide and selective abortion of female fetous or the child during pregnancy. We are also here to raise our voice against concerns such as do by against women across the nation in the create of rituals practices religion tradition culture and moral policing. The life expentancy of women being greater than men is a simple anology that medical improvements have made this possible and yes the no of women getting killed cuz of tobaco liqour drugs and sex is relatively lesser to men who are more prone to such habits and die of complications arising out of these.
I evaluate this article should say your question. Here is a small choose:>>Yet it is the world's largest democracy that is the undeclared winner in the contest of violence against women. In India female foeticide - the sex-selective abortion of girls - has led to an alarming "gender gap" in the country's population. In 1990 when the census showed that there were 25 million more males than females in India the government reacted by introducing a law making it illegal to detect the sex of a foetus through ultrasound examination. Yet by 2001 thegender gap had risen to 35 million and now experts calculate it as high as 50 million........ The treatment ofwomen as second-class citizens isdeeply embedded in the Indian mindset whether Hindu. Muslim. Sikh,Christian. Jain or Parsee. Despite legislation making dowry illegal dowry demands are exorbitantand still result in an estimated 25,000 dowry deaths a year at the hands of avaricious grooms and in-laws. Child widows are meted execrable treatment and are denied the right of remarriage. Even when daughters are allowed to go to educate they areburdened with household chores leading to high drop-out rates. Across all the religions the bring forth of a son is celebratedwhile the birth of a daughter ismourned. Until sons and daughters are treated equally until life is made safe for the Indian woman the country remains morally under siege. Our walk demandsnot only an end to female foeticide butto all forms of violence against women. It demands consider for women's rightsand dignity from bring forth to death<<<.<<
Life expectationNow what could be wrong here? In this schedule (How to lie with statistics) or a similar one in German which I read 5 years ago it is written that there is no international standard of how to measure life expectations. There are countries which consider babies and there are even some which include babies which are born dead then there are some which consider dead premature babies. In countries where newborns and young babies dont die so much it does not make much difference in the numbers but what about India?Lets assume many do by girls get killed right after they are born or even before. Depending on what statistical come you use you ordain see a difference or not. Now what kind of statistics would an official Indian government department use? The one which shows everything is alter or the other one? In a similar fashion the political parties in Germany decrease the jobless numbers. They just change the definition of jobless and within a splitsecond there are 5% less populate jobless. Its magic isnt it? If babies dont ascertain into the life expectation statistic that would explain a lot. Just guessing here what is more likely. Maybe it helps. I can also prove that everybody who drinks milk dies. Milk should be forbidden. Oh wait everybody who doesnt drink draw dies too ;-) Who was the famous guy who said dont believe statistics which you didnt re-create yourself.
Life expectancy is the 'add up life continue' of an individual. What does that undergo to do with how many individuals there actually are present in a population?No the term "missing" is NOT METAPHORICAL. It may be euphemistic -- in that we don't really be to say we are such a violent nation we've eliminated 50 million of our women! THERE ACTUALLY ARE (AT LEAST) 50 MILLION WOMEN LESS THAN THERE SHOULD BE IN INDIA -- AS WOULD BE EXPECTED OF A NORMAL GENDER RATIO IN A REGULAR POPULATION. THE WORD 'MISSING' WAS COINED BY DR. AMARTYA SEN IN 1986. WHEN THEY WERE PUZZLED AS TO WHERE THIS MISSING divide HAD GONE. OF cover -- WE NOW KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR AT LEAST HALF A MILLION GIRL FETUSES ARE ABORTED IN INDIA. OUR MOST PROGRESSIVE STATE -- KERALA -- HAS ABOUT 25000 FEMALE INFANTS KILLED SOON AFTER BIRTH. IN BIHAR MIDWIVES undergo ADMITTED IN INTERVIEWS THAT THEY KILL ALMOST 50% OF THE BABY GIRLS THEY ARE HIRED TO BIRTH (THE FAMILY PAYS TO HAVE THEM KILLED). AND AT LEAST 30000 WOMEN ARE KILLED IN DOWRY RELATED HOMICIDE IN INDIA EVERY YEAR. THE NUMBERS act ADDING UP!!!!!!! SO YES -- WHEN WE SAY WE'VE ELIMINATED 50 MILLION WOMEN FROM THIS COUNTRY -- THAT IS
SO YES -- WHEN WE SAY WE'VE ELIMINATED 50 MILLION WOMEN FROM THIS COUNTRY -- THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. --They are literally missing because either 1-they were never born thanks to selective FEMALE feticide.2-they didn't make it past early childhood because of selective FEMALE infanticide. 3-they managed to make it to marriageable age which is somewhere between 16-20 or so only to be exterminated by their in-laws. In other words. MURDERED. Yes they are really missing. The 50 million is an estimate. The evince "missing" is not. Life expectancy is the 'add up life continue' of an individual. What does that have to do with how many individuals there actually are present in a population?Nothing at all. Rita... they're just trying to misidentify the air with a red herring. On the up align look at it this way: You experience the Indian women's movement is gaining ground when it gets the kind of reactionary backlash stuff ("men's rights," etc) exemplified by above poster. If reactionary populate are this threatened by attempts to save do by girls we must be doing something alter.
" they're just trying to misidentify the air with a red herring."Who is they? So far I see only one. Maybe Im just not watchful enough. Besides that. Of course does the average life expectation become lower if populate get killed before their natural death. Just think about it. You have 10 women. 5 change state 80 years old the other 5 get killed between 0 and 20 years. Now the average life expectation is (5x80+5x10)/10=45To compare all 10 women enjoy their natural 80 years. What ordain the average life expectation be? 10x80/10=8045 vs. 80. No difference?
Skype it is little more complicated than your calulations the Swedish formula is on 15 pages. You start with the population and looks at diffrent risks of dieing. If you are married its a smaler risk than for non married etc etc... In Sweden a new born girl is likely to live nerly 5 years longer than a boy. To analyse the add up life expactation cant be anything more than Indian men lives dangerus lives. Who control cars in India? Indian traffic is realy dangerus. The picture of the indian industry isn´t that it is safe for the workers.... The averege life expectation is calulations with the come about to die. And all the unborn is never in the statistics.
Unborn deaths are counted in some countries in otheres they are not. Didnt I have in mind this in my first post as a possible explanation why killed girl babies might not show in the numbers?If indian men life dangerously then their average life expectation should be even displace compared to women than in other countries. Now if its not it could be explained that women have a dangeous life.[ADVERTHERE]Related article:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/50_million_missing/discuss/72157602184005434/72157602204043646/
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